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Burter's speed...
Topic Started: Jul 21 2014, 05:11 PM (1,166 Views)
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Goku > Burter > Ginyu works fine. I don't know why Ginyu would lie about being inferior to someone else.


Dunno why he would either, but he SHOWED that he wasn't.
Edited by Xfing, Jul 21 2014, 08:54 PM.
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You ask me if I saw their fight, but Ginyu only hit Goku once, when Goku wasn't paying attention.
Edited by Clearin, Jul 21 2014, 08:55 PM.
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Jul 21 2014, 06:01 PM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 21 2014, 05:54 PM
No way to judge off a manga panel.
Why not? If you know how far a horizon is, then anybody should be able to tell.
Because you don't know how long it took. Period.
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Ok, and Burter didn't hit Goku even once, while Goku wasn't paying attention, while at the same time keeping a semblance of having only 5000 in powerlevel and making it appear like he isn't even moving while dodging Burter's and Jeice's blows. Still, all things considered, Burter looked much, much worse against Goku than Ginyu did.
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Jul 21 2014, 08:56 PM
Ok, and Burter didn't hit Goku even once, while Goku wasn't paying attention, while at the same time keeping a semblance of having only 5000 in powerlevel and making it appear like he isn't even moving while dodging Burter's and Jeice's blows. Still, all things considered, Burter looked much, much worse against Goku than Ginyu did.
There's really not much to base the fight off...Especially if we only use the part where Ginyu powers up, and even then Goku is at an unspecified PL and Ginyu might not even be using full power.

It's an insanely short fight anyway. This is how it went down:
-Goku and Ginyu start at unspecified powers
-Ginyu hits Goku while Goku is off guard (watching Vegeta fly away)
-Ginyu tries to follow this up but Goku is too fast and dodges Ginyu's next attack
-Goku now recovered tries to attack behind him with a kick but Ginyu dodges
-The two trade blows, seemingly dodging them? I think, it's hard to tell in panels like this, it seems like there's three "hit" marks, which could be either their punches colliding or hitting each other, for what it's worth Ginyu has 2 of them and Goku has 1
-Ginyu powers up to an unspecified power, Goku stays the same
-Ginyu fires a Ki blast which Goku dodges
-Goku tries to attack Ginyu, but Ginyu dodges
-Ginyu tries to attack Goku, but Goku dodges
-Goku tries to attack Ginyu, but Ginyu dodges
-And then they trade blows again, punches colliding from what I can tell
-Ginyu tries to retreat and flies into the air, but Goku flies faster
-Then Jeice fires a Ki blast at Goku, which distracts him enough for Ginyu to grab him, and that's the end of the fight.

My own interpretation is:
Ginyu can't hit Goku because of Goku's speed, despite Goku being weaker PL-wise. Goku can't hit Ginyu because Ginyu has much better reaction times (than Goku and Burter). That's just my own opinion of the thing, whether or not you want to believe it matters not to me.
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Well, the truth is, in most cases in the Dragonball manga, a powerlevel is an indicator of both power AND speed, in a proportional manner. This was built up and never contradicted, except in the cases of Burter (faster) and USSj (slower). Burter was indeed faster than his powerlevel would suggest, but that still did him no good against someone with a vastly superior powerlevel like Goku. He was utterly helpless against Goku there. And as you pointed out yourself, Ginyu managed to dodge two blows from Goku and even though the fight was brief, they were evenly matched. This fight, however short, looked nothing like the curbstomp taht was Goku vs Jeice and Burter. And these are facts, so not really subject to opinion. You can still think whatever you want to, though, I guess.
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Jul 21 2014, 08:54 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 05:54 PM
No way to judge off a manga panel.
Why not? If you know how far a horizon is, then anybody should be able to tell.
Because you don't know how long it took. Period.
The Ginyu Force isn't just gonna stare at the Dragon Ball Vegeta threw, which was already near the horizon.

Vegeta threw (near horizon)the Dragon Ball, Burter power up and easily captures the Dragon Ball in the next slides.
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Jul 21 2014, 11:25 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 08:54 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 06:01 PM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 21 2014, 05:54 PM
No way to judge off a manga panel.
Why not? If you know how far a horizon is, then anybody should be able to tell.
Because you don't know how long it took. Period.
The Ginyu Force isn't just gonna stare at the Dragon Ball Vegeta threw, which was already near the horizon.

Vegeta threw (near horizon)the Dragon Ball, Burter power up and easily captures the Dragon Ball in the next slides.
Your point being?
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its A feat sure
but it doesnt give us anything, its not like someone in the scene was like snap u got that ball that was roughly 13839 feet away in 2.5 seconds, good job.......
u can do fan calcs but blah......
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Correct Havoc, it's meaningless. And fan calcs are against the rules.
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I was about to say...fan calculations aren't to be trifled with in these matters. It does nobody any good.
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It's a warnable offense actually.
Edited by SSJ, Jul 22 2014, 05:26 AM.
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Jul 22 2014, 05:26 AM
It's a warnable offense actually.
So if I were to judge the distance from the group to the horizon as about two miles, and say Burta closed that gap and returned in one second, that'd be grounds to warn me, right?
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Jul 22 2014, 05:43 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 22 2014, 05:26 AM
It's a warnable offense actually.
So if I were to judge the distance from the group to the horizon as about two miles, and say Burta closed that gap and returned in one second, that'd be grounds to warn me, right?
Perhaps a verbal. Check the other vs rules, it's stated in there. Fan made calculations are simply not allowed.
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